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Having Children?

posted Wednesday, 13 September 2006
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While talking with a friend on IM the other night, she mentioned that she'd had a conversation with another woman who was hesistant to date a particular man in his 40s because he was childless.  Her hesistation stemmed from her belief that anyone who did not have children by a certain age had something mentally "wrong" with them.

Oh, where to start?  There are so many ways to shoot this woman down in flames.

For one thing, with rampant child abuse all over the planet, the world would be a lot better off if many people did not have children.   For most people, whether or not they want to have children isn't something they give a lot of careful thought to.  It's almost an automatic thing; you grow up and get married, and you naturally have children.  I don't know a whole lot of people who search their souls or examine themselves to discover their actual desires on the matter or whether they've even got the aptitude to be good parents.

Indeed, many people give more thought as to what kind of a house or a car they want to buy, or what career they'll work at, than whether or not parenthood is right for them.  Parenthood is usually more of a default status, and less one that is actively chosen when not having children is seen as an equally valid option.

However, many people manage to do well as parents and love their children, even when having children is more of a default thing rather than an active choice. 

Nevertheless, the human race is in no danger of extinction any time soon; rather, we have the opposite problem.  In light of this and the other things I've mentioned,  to say that someone is mentally warped and maladjusted for choosing not to have children is shortsighted at best, not to mention naive and arrogant.

There are many reasons why people choose not to have children: knowing one's limitations for the job of raising children, be it one of aptitiude, temperament, or resources, lack of interest, devoting one's life to something else that wouldn't fit well with the responsibilities of parenthood, and so on.

Like the old saying goes, "One can love and appreciate music without feeling the need to learn to play all the instruments in the orchestra".  The same is true of children.

Thoughts?



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1. JohnSherck left...
Wednesday, 13 September 2006 9:08 pm :: http://wheresmyplan.blog-city.com

I think it's probably because it's a default condition rather than something that's carefully considered that this woman saw it as wrong. "Everyone" does it, so if someone doesn't do it, they must be abnormal, must be off somehow. That said, you're absolutely right that this position doesn't bear up under any scrutiny at all. I remember a conversation with a guy I was close friends with growing up when he had his first child. I said I couldn't imagine having children at our age (we were in our early 20s) because I didn't feel financially secure enough to raise children, much less actually ready to take on the vast responsibility of raising a child. Both because of his situation as a new father and because of his religious conviction, my position seemed completely foreign to him. A child was more of a blessing from God than something that you would plan. Which only makes sense to him, I suppose, being one of ten children.


2. Liveandlearn left...
Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:28 pm :: http://chrysalis.blog-city.com

I think most people just expect other people to want to have children. If they don't, they find this odd or strange, not everyone is made for having families though. My sister decided to not have children because she said she was too selfish, not being able to put the kids needs ahead of her own. I don't find her odd or strange, well other than normal sisterly things.


3. Mark Ellott left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 2:04 am :: http://www.longrider.co.uk/blog

My wife and I are child free by choice. There is nothing mentally wrong with either of us. Fortunately, we don't get this kind of comment directed at us. Anyone who did would feel the acid edge of my tongue.


4. sophmom left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 7:24 am :: http://www.dotcalm.blog-city.com

I certainly don't think there's anything *wrong* with someone for not having children, but I doubt I could be in a long term relationship with someone who doesn't, simply because I don't think anyone without children could fully understand me. It's not really any different from the fact that I can't envision myself in a relationship with a Republican. Nothing personal. Just need to have those few things in common.


5. lisapooh left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 8:34 am

For me and my husband the choice was somewhat taken away from us due to some health issues on my part. At one time we thought we wanted to have children and went thru the torture of infertility testing and surgery to correct the problem. Since it didn’t work we remained childless. On one hand I was grateful; I don’t think I was ever “ready” to be a mother to humans. We have been able to pass on the love and nurturing feelings to our dogs, but I have days when I think “Who will take care of me when I am old?” Then I realize having children would have never guaranteed some one to be there when we are old.


6. lovertine lady left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 9:40 am :: http://lovertine.blogspot.com/index.html

I think it is admirable admission when a man or woman is clear on how they stand when it comes to children. If they feel they are not ready to have children, or have no desire to have children, that is their right. Nowadays, a woman really does have a choice whether or not they want to conceive or carry a pregnancy to term...aka birthcontrol (whether by pill or less savory means). That might sound horrid, but in America, at least, women do not have to be pregnant. We should count ourselves lucky (in a sense) that we live in a world and in a time where it is NOT mandatory to produce offspring. Personally, I will never have children, by choice and due to health complications, but I relish the fact that I HAVE a choice in the matter. But I suppose there will always be people in the world who seem to spontaneously have children only to neglect or abuse these children, or take for granted the fact that they can have children. I think this woman you mentioned, W, is still living in her socially assigned role of a closed-minded peon.


7. JohnSherck left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:31 pm :: http://wheresmyplan.blog-city.com

I read a book back in college called Pronatalism: The Myth of Mom and Apple Pie which was essentially about all of the societal pressures to have children and a defense of the right not to have them. There really are a lot of pressures out there and so many people never become conscious of them. That said, I do think that it's becoming a more common choice, is losing some of its stigma, and is therefore actully becoming a choice for more and more people.


8. sophmom left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 3:03 pm :: http://www.dotcalm.blog-city.com

I think it's disgusting to think that there would be a "stigma" attached to not having children, although I don't doubt those of you who suggest that there has been. We should all have the same freedoms to choose for ourselves, and this is often not a choice, but a fact of nature. It would be a terrible shame to hold that against someone. I think we should all value each other's paths, always, and in everything. I just can't imagine being in an intimate long-term relationship with someone who didn't have children - mostly because I can't imagine them putting up with my obsession with my own. Sherck, if anyone gives you a hard time about being childless, send 'em to me and I'll whoop up on 'em for you. ;)


9. Paula Reed left...
Thursday, 14 September 2006 8:37 pm :: http://www.paulareed.blog-city.com

I think that woman's perspective is very odd. I must say that when people insist too adamantly that others make the same life-style choices as they do, that's really about not being 100% comfortable with their own choices. They seem to seek validation in others being like them.


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